I try to save what came with the golf club ( even if they are not the original parts ).
But the back screw is one of the item which needs to be replaced almost every time.
Where does one go to get the supply ? Face screw, face insert, screws for the Sole plate, back screw..... ?
Do I just bring the screws that came out of the head to a specialty store to get matched or place an order?
The Reed and Prince screws are impossible to track down and a lot of flat head wood screws are being used to replace it.
Where do you go to get your supply ? I know, I could get a "donor" club, but I hate to destroy one in order to save one.
Thoughts?
If I know what to order, we have a specialty store locally which carry almost everything in screws and fasteners. I could order from this place http://www.tacomascrew.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiAwZTuBRAYEiwAcr67OfIH9KCyqbDlNo4S1XU2kGlqw7pUYvORTuz2T0BfLTnrLXv31sH1CBoCTHMQAvD_BwE .
All of their staff are great people, one other reason I love to go there fro what I need. The special order does require minimum quantity, Some are not too bad but some are in the larger count for numbers.
Well it really depends on what I need. Whipping thread is nylon fishing line for now, although one day I might order some from ashway. As far as screws, my local hardware store carries brass phillips screws that are a close-enough approximate of face screws for my purposes. Sole plate screws I haven't needed until now, I think I'll try a marine fastener supplier in the area. Ive been told you don't need to replace backscrews anymore, but if I were to, I'd be inclined to use an allen wrench stud in the hopes of one day getting the thing out again.
I do try to avoid having donor clubs at all costs. I don't think its fair to destroy a strata-bloc in poor shape to save an Eye-O-Matic in poor shape. Neither effort will be financially worthwhile, so why destroy a club?
There is a listing on the eBay for steel driver shaft all with a prep hole in the tip section. Form the length of 43.8"
it is suspect made for vintage clubs.
For whipping I called up Maltby Golfworks and asked if they still had any. The customer service rep said they had some even though it isn’t on their website, it is in their computer. She said she had 6 spools left and no idea when they were getting more so I bought all of it. 😁
The rest of the supplies in my kit are from ebay. I‘d search for “Golf Repair” and things would pop up. I won an auction a year ago for a “Golf Repair Kit” last year on eBay that had a swing weight scale, tons of ferrules, whipping, face and sole screws, back screws, lead powder, and even some persimmon decals. Also bought 40 or so Harrison steel wood shafts. I’ve also made contacts with numerous collectors that have been aging out of the hobby and are looking to move inventory.
The one thing I’ve yet to find is insert material. I saw a nice set of Macgregor woods where the driver had a big chunk of the insert missing. I knew it would be hard to find the material so I passed.
As for donor clubs, I’m all for it. If a lower end club can be sacrificed for a much more collectible or higher quality club, then so be it.
I did notice a lot of the restored persimmons have composite face inserts. Had seen the material used, ranged from composite, to graphite to resin......
The changing of the face insert is probably the most involved work for restoring a persimmon head.
I don;t have a lot of the tools needed and doing the work all by hands will require a lot of patience and I don't have that kind of time right now.
Maybe, one day, I'll get all the tools to play with my toys.
I'm going to do a new insert on a ginty for my next US project. I have a sheet of black ABS I got from Tap Plastics to try out. Would anyone happen to have Stan Thompson and/or Stanforged decals for that club? Otherwise I'm going to see about having some made.
You should start a new thread for this project. Be very interested in seeing the progress of it.
Sorry that I can;t help , I'm still waiting for several catalog and history of H&B Powerbuilt and Wilson to arrive. I know nothing about the Ginty from Stan Thompson.
I believe Louisville made these, and they are still in business. Be the best source to get info if they are willing to share the information.
Otherwise, I'd do like any other face plate by tracing the old insert onto the new board, trace the shape, rough cut and then sand it to fit.
I looked into some of these composite board and they are not cheap. If anyone has their favorite replacement insert material, please, please share the review.
Dopes anyone knows the dimension/measurement of the face insert board/sheet from OEM supply ?
I know some came cut to rough fit but some came in larger piece.
What thickness should I be looking at ?
I found there are ABS, PET-G boards that many are using to replace the traditional fiber inserts.
Any suggestions ?
Since a lot of the recommendation is to use the pressed linen with resin ( Phenolic Sheet - Natural )Canvas ). Can someone share the knowledge of how thick the sheets need to be for the face insert ? 1/4" ? or 3/8th" ?
Also found some waxed threads for possible whipping material. These are made for stitching up leather, so must be durable .
I'll go check them out in the craft store next week.
"Good morning,
Thank you for your email. We do still carry the whipping (nylon) WH50, though you would need to call in to place this order. We no longer carry decal or inserts however.
The EH50 (item number) whipping is 3.90 a spool."
Email conversation yesterday from Golf works. The stuff is not in the catalog but they do have it.
I had used the Nylon whipping in the past, they worked fine ( first spool were given to me from a friend of a friend whom was an old school club maker ) . Some guys from the hickory clubs preferred waxed linen thread, not sure if it's for the appearance or other reason.
The paper fiber inserts were discontinued long ago, the thermoplastic ( composite ) board is stronger, more resilient. That's the stuff we've been seeing recently in the restoration.
To avoid ordering the wrong thickness, anyone knows which thickness to order ?
Or do we just remove the original inserts, measure, before placing an order ?
Would anyone know where someone might go about getting a block or blank of persimmon to start "from first principles"? There is one listing on eBay but he only has fairway wood heads. I wanted to make a driver. Starting from scratch-scratch might be a tough ask, but it'd be fun to try.
I‘ve considered doing this a few times but have yet to give it a try. I found a couple of places online that have persimmon turning blanks that would be a suitable size.
https://www.gvwp.net/online-store/4-BEAUTIFUL-PERSIMMON-TURNING-BLANKS-3-X-3-X-12-p68801977
http://www.woodturningblanks4u.com/persimmon-turning-wood.html
You‘re a young guy, you have plenty of time to let some wood dry. 😁
My idea had always been to build some larger heads filled with cork like Wood Brothers did. Push the size of a traditional head a bit.
Wow, James, you're talking of turning the piece to make the blank for the head ? That will be undertaking a huge task.
Without proper wood working equipment, it'll be time consuming to try to fashing the shape of the blank. You must have the basic equipment for wood turning ?
I gave away a big piece of cherry tree from our yard ( a 40 year old tree had to be taken down because of disease) to a neighbor whom does the wood turning for hobby , I'd imagine he would have to cure the piece for at least a year in a dry cool place if not longer.
All the tools I have are the belt sander and a small table band saw, which is enough to do small maintenance work but not making the blank for persimmon heads.
The St. Andrew Golf Co. has posted information of making vintage style golf clubs from the start. It would take a weekend hobby to a different level. Not entirely out of the question, if one has the time and the resources ( both knowledge and funding ), eventually this will have to turn into a business to generate some cash flow to support the hobby, unless one is independently wealthy.
Don't forget to post pictures if you decided to start the project.
BTW, there are some blank persimmon heads for sale, some with face sole plates and some are just rough in the shape of the head.
athey would be nice to have even for paper weight on your desk.
I almost pull the trigger last week but looking at some of the stuff I already have...... and wife's voice ringing in my ears to lay low until kids are out of grad schools....
They are being snatched up quickly........